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		<title>by: Johan</title>
		<link>http://www.tradersnarrative.com/are-we-in-a-recession-already-1325.html#comment-17322</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>So what is all this talk about recession? Maybe we are, maybe we ain't in one.

I'm only interested in how one can prosper from this knowledge. 

I do believe we are in a recession (in the American market at least).

Have a great day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what is all this talk about recession? Maybe we are, maybe we ain&#8217;t in one.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m only interested in how one can prosper from this knowledge. </p>
<p>I do believe we are in a recession (in the American market at least).</p>
<p>Have a great day!
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		<title>by: Bourne</title>
		<link>http://www.tradersnarrative.com/are-we-in-a-recession-already-1325.html#comment-17310</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Really? :) Well, I'm a local, just studied english until secondary school and then read quite a lot by myself. I think it is a good approach to a foreign language, working better if you read things of interest to you.

Now, about a 50 rate cut, I have these numbers:

Date, Dow Jones that day and several days after, and some remarks:
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Sep 11th 9441 to 9591 ... 10.000.

Oct 2nd 2001 8840 to 8950 ...  9500.

May 15th 2001. in four days 10.800 to almost 11.350.

Mar 20th 2001. Here the Dow slipped several days.

Jan 31st 2001 10.800 to over 11.200 in several days.

* It seems to work in the short term, about 400-600 dow points up. 
* It is not a guarantee for a trend. 
* As a colleague pointed to me yesterday, these examples were surprise, between-meetings rate cuts. Now the market could have priced half of the effect yet. 
* Also, the Fed could very well cut 25 and talk about future cuts whenever necessary and watching the macro data. 

Well, let's wait and see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? <img src='http://www.tradersnarrative.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Well, I&#8217;m a local, just studied english until secondary school and then read quite a lot by myself. I think it is a good approach to a foreign language, working better if you read things of interest to you.</p>
<p>Now, about a 50 rate cut, I have these numbers:</p>
<p>Date, Dow Jones that day and several days after, and some remarks:<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Sep 11th 9441 to 9591 &#8230; 10.000.</p>
<p>Oct 2nd 2001 8840 to 8950 &#8230;  9500.</p>
<p>May 15th 2001. in four days 10.800 to almost 11.350.</p>
<p>Mar 20th 2001. Here the Dow slipped several days.</p>
<p>Jan 31st 2001 10.800 to over 11.200 in several days.</p>
<p>* It seems to work in the short term, about 400-600 dow points up.<br />
* It is not a guarantee for a trend.<br />
* As a colleague pointed to me yesterday, these examples were surprise, between-meetings rate cuts. Now the market could have priced half of the effect yet.<br />
* Also, the Fed could very well cut 25 and talk about future cuts whenever necessary and watching the macro data. </p>
<p>Well, let&#8217;s wait and see.
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		<title>by: Babak</title>
		<link>http://www.tradersnarrative.com/are-we-in-a-recession-already-1325.html#comment-17296</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Aaron, how about a 50 bp cut? that'd wake people up, eh?

Bourne, thanks for the links!
btw, your English is too good. Are you an expat or local?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, how about a 50 bp cut? that&#8217;d wake people up, eh?</p>
<p>Bourne, thanks for the links!<br />
btw, your English is too good. Are you an expat or local?
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		<title>by: Bourne</title>
		<link>http://www.tradersnarrative.com/are-we-in-a-recession-already-1325.html#comment-17281</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This might be of help.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.frbsf.org/publications/economics/letter/2006/el2006-32.html&quot;&gt;Is a Recession Imminent?&lt;/a&gt;

FRBSF Economic Letter
2006-32; November 24, 2006


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/feds/2006/200607/200607abs.html&quot;&gt;The Yield Curve and Predicting Recessions&lt;/a&gt;
Jonathan H. Wright
2006-7



Quoting the first one:
&quot;Finally, not only are recessions hard to predict, it is even hard to tell that the economy is in a recession once it has begun. This is especially true in the low volatility regime that has prevailed since the mid-1980s. Here, the evidence suggests that it may be useful to supplement data from the surveys with data from indicator models that attempt to measure the current state of the economy&quot;.

This said, an analyst here in Spain has found the chances of U.S. recession to be 27-30% using Wright's model, between 25-40% across several models. Not very high, but is not negligible. The ECRI data seems to be quite reliable and points to slow down, but still not recession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This might be of help.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.frbsf.org/publications/economics/letter/2006/el2006-32.html">Is a Recession Imminent?</a></p>
<p>FRBSF Economic Letter<br />
2006-32; November 24, 2006</p>
<p><a href="http://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/feds/2006/200607/200607abs.html">The Yield Curve and Predicting Recessions</a><br />
Jonathan H. Wright<br />
2006-7</p>
<p>Quoting the first one:<br />
&#8220;Finally, not only are recessions hard to predict, it is even hard to tell that the economy is in a recession once it has begun. This is especially true in the low volatility regime that has prevailed since the mid-1980s. Here, the evidence suggests that it may be useful to supplement data from the surveys with data from indicator models that attempt to measure the current state of the economy&#8221;.</p>
<p>This said, an analyst here in Spain has found the chances of U.S. recession to be 27-30% using Wright&#8217;s model, between 25-40% across several models. Not very high, but is not negligible. The ECRI data seems to be quite reliable and points to slow down, but still not recession.
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		<title>by: Aaron</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think the chances of a recession have risen greatly in the past month or two. The Fed must do something to stop the recession pressures. Inflationary pressures seems to always be a key to them, which is great, but they must do everything possible to avoid a recession. The fixed-income markets are certainly screaming for rate cuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the chances of a recession have risen greatly in the past month or two. The Fed must do something to stop the recession pressures. Inflationary pressures seems to always be a key to them, which is great, but they must do everything possible to avoid a recession. The fixed-income markets are certainly screaming for rate cuts.
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