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		<title>by: Babak</title>
		<link>http://www.tradersnarrative.com/black-monday-ancient-history-or-imminent-future-3165.html#comment-56380</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>MachineGhost, permabear? did you know he was one of just a handful who were bullish in late Feb/early March and caught the vast majority of this huge rally? No one has a crystal ball or a perfect track record but credit where credit is due my good man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MachineGhost, permabear? did you know he was one of just a handful who were bullish in late Feb/early March and caught the vast majority of this huge rally? No one has a crystal ball or a perfect track record but credit where credit is due my good man.
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		<title>by: MachineGhost</title>
		<link>http://www.tradersnarrative.com/black-monday-ancient-history-or-imminent-future-3165.html#comment-56376</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Stupid comparison.  2009 to 1929?  The proper comparison is 2009 to 1930.

I wish you'd stop posting Prechter's perma-bear-guru B.S. all the time.  Or, at least move the byline to the bottom of such articles so it stops annoying people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid comparison.  2009 to 1929?  The proper comparison is 2009 to 1930.</p>
<p>I wish you&#8217;d stop posting Prechter&#8217;s perma-bear-guru B.S. all the time.  Or, at least move the byline to the bottom of such articles so it stops annoying people.
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		<title>by: wayne</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Jim, understood.  I think fed rates should be going back to a very accommodative 1% by Springi.  I wasn't predicting that they would.  If we can take Bernanke at his word, he has stated almost unequivocally and unusually blunt for a Fed Chairman that Fed rates wouldn't be going back up soon.  He also said 3 months ago in an interview that his biggest fear was that his legacy would be one of being remembered as the Fed Chairman that resided over the Depression of the 21st century.   One of the unfortunate characteristics of our system, is that he has the option of being a short termer and leaving it up to the next Fed Chairman to worry about the consequences of runaway inflation.  Of course if Tbills start up without him, he may have no choice but to eat his words.  It will be interesting to see how Retailers fare during the holidays with 10% unemployment. 

Economics is so interesting, because although it is cyclical, it never exactly repeats itself.  Who would have guessed a decade ago, that we would soon see gold above 1000, oil in a strong uptrend and interest rates at 0.1%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, understood.  I think fed rates should be going back to a very accommodative 1% by Springi.  I wasn&#8217;t predicting that they would.  If we can take Bernanke at his word, he has stated almost unequivocally and unusually blunt for a Fed Chairman that Fed rates wouldn&#8217;t be going back up soon.  He also said 3 months ago in an interview that his biggest fear was that his legacy would be one of being remembered as the Fed Chairman that resided over the Depression of the 21st century.   One of the unfortunate characteristics of our system, is that he has the option of being a short termer and leaving it up to the next Fed Chairman to worry about the consequences of runaway inflation.  Of course if Tbills start up without him, he may have no choice but to eat his words.  It will be interesting to see how Retailers fare during the holidays with 10% unemployment. </p>
<p>Economics is so interesting, because although it is cyclical, it never exactly repeats itself.  Who would have guessed a decade ago, that we would soon see gold above 1000, oil in a strong uptrend and interest rates at 0.1%.
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		<title>by: Jim</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>wayne, if it's up to Bernanke, he'll wait too long to raise rates; it's a lesson he thinks he learned from the 1930s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wayne, if it&#8217;s up to Bernanke, he&#8217;ll wait too long to raise rates; it&#8217;s a lesson he thinks he learned from the 1930s.
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		<title>by: wayne</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Babak, glad to finally see another comparison to 1929.  It had been a couple months and I was getting concerned.  I feel much more comfortable now. 

Can't argue with you Nick.  But we have so little history of how interest rates rising from zero will impact the stock market.   The normal rule is three steps and a tumble.  But will that apply if interest rates are coming from zero?  Are 1% interest rates competition for a market that will be yielding 4-4.5% by year end.  I wouldn't be surprised if the market rallies after the first hike, maybe a one day pullback after the second, a one week pullback after the third, then some major headwinds thereafter.  

I have stated in here before that I thought rates should already be headed back to 1%.  LEI has been in strong uptrend for 6 straight months.  Today's GDP confirmed LEI's trend..  Not that  the Fed should be tightening the noose, but simply working from the current crisis mode to a normal accommodative mode (1-1.5%).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Babak, glad to finally see another comparison to 1929.  It had been a couple months and I was getting concerned.  I feel much more comfortable now. </p>
<p>Can&#8217;t argue with you Nick.  But we have so little history of how interest rates rising from zero will impact the stock market.   The normal rule is three steps and a tumble.  But will that apply if interest rates are coming from zero?  Are 1% interest rates competition for a market that will be yielding 4-4.5% by year end.  I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the market rallies after the first hike, maybe a one day pullback after the second, a one week pullback after the third, then some major headwinds thereafter.  </p>
<p>I have stated in here before that I thought rates should already be headed back to 1%.  LEI has been in strong uptrend for 6 straight months.  Today&#8217;s GDP confirmed LEI&#8217;s trend..  Not that  the Fed should be tightening the noose, but simply working from the current crisis mode to a normal accommodative mode (1-1.5%).
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		<title>by: Nick</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>One of the causes of the current stock market rally and the high P/E ratios of many stocks is the low interest rates and quantitative easing by the Fed.

But the quantitative easing by the Fed is scheduled to end in the first quarter of next year.  And the US government is planning to sell a lot more US treasury bonds throughout next year and for years to come after that.   Which could easily lead to high US bond interest rates.  And high interest rates would certainly attract a lot of money out of the high P/E stocks and into US government bonds.  

It all depends on how quickly bond interest rates go up and how quickly the stock markets will react to that.  If bond interest rates go up quickly and go up a lot.  Then it's quite possible that a stock market crash would follow, even if the economy isn't doing quite as badly as it did during the Great Depression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the causes of the current stock market rally and the high P/E ratios of many stocks is the low interest rates and quantitative easing by the Fed.</p>
<p>But the quantitative easing by the Fed is scheduled to end in the first quarter of next year.  And the US government is planning to sell a lot more US treasury bonds throughout next year and for years to come after that.   Which could easily lead to high US bond interest rates.  And high interest rates would certainly attract a lot of money out of the high P/E stocks and into US government bonds.  </p>
<p>It all depends on how quickly bond interest rates go up and how quickly the stock markets will react to that.  If bond interest rates go up quickly and go up a lot.  Then it&#8217;s quite possible that a stock market crash would follow, even if the economy isn&#8217;t doing quite as badly as it did during the Great Depression.
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		<title>by: Babak</title>
		<link>http://www.tradersnarrative.com/black-monday-ancient-history-or-imminent-future-3165.html#comment-56344</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Alec, you're assuming too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alec, you&#8217;re assuming too much.
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		<title>by: Alec</title>
		<link>http://www.tradersnarrative.com/black-monday-ancient-history-or-imminent-future-3165.html#comment-56342</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Are you going to put your credibility on the line for this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you going to put your credibility on the line for this?
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