Comments on: Confessions Of A Methylcobalamin Junkie http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html Freshly squeezed market commentary & analysis Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:43:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Boo Radley http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-36080 Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:21:54 +0000 http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-36080 With the nasal spray, you have to voluntarily snuff the stuff up into your nasal passages rather intensely, so that it doesn't flow out, or run down into your throat too quickly. With that in mind, I'm sure you understand why it would be an issue with many kids, particularly small ones, and badly autistic ones. Animals, well I'll not insult you by explaining that one, either. :-) Another thing about the spray...you have to pick out red boogers. Seriously. I take the nasal spray as well, and I can tell you, it *is* a little bit uncomfortable directly after spraying. Kind of like getting a little water up the nose, but it goes away quickly. For some, the shots are less of a bother than the nasal spray, less uncomfortable. Also, while the nasal spray works for many people, it may be that some folks just can't absorb much that way. The injections give more peace of mind, as they are the surest form of delivery, and less of the methylcobalamin is wasted. I shoot b complex (minus the b12), and snort the methyl-mate. I've heard a father tell how he injects his sleeping son, and it never wakes him. With the insulin needles, it is possible. But he'd have to have an awfully steady hand. I don't know if subQ absorbtion is slower than IM. But I have been told that it is almost as good as IM. With frequent megadoses, I wouldn't imagine it makes much difference. But that's just me, and I haven't studied that bit of it very much yet. With the nasal spray, you have to voluntarily snuff the stuff up into your nasal passages rather intensely, so that it doesn’t flow out, or run down into your throat too quickly. With that in mind, I’m sure you understand why it would be an issue with many kids, particularly small ones, and badly autistic ones. Animals, well I’ll not insult you by explaining that one, either.

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Another thing about the spray…you have to pick out red boogers. Seriously.

I take the nasal spray as well, and I can tell you, it *is* a little bit uncomfortable directly after spraying. Kind of like getting a little water up the nose, but it goes away quickly. For some, the shots are less of a bother than the nasal spray, less uncomfortable. Also, while the nasal spray works for many people, it may be that some folks just can’t absorb much that way. The injections give more peace of mind, as they are the surest form of delivery, and less of the methylcobalamin is wasted. I shoot b complex (minus the b12), and snort the methyl-mate.

I’ve heard a father tell how he injects his sleeping son, and it never wakes him. With the insulin needles, it is possible. But he’d have to have an awfully steady hand.

I don’t know if subQ absorbtion is slower than IM. But I have been told that it is almost as good as IM. With frequent megadoses, I wouldn’t imagine it makes much difference. But that’s just me, and I haven’t studied that bit of it very much yet.

]]> by: Xan http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-36078 Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:27:31 +0000 http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-36078 Those of us who give self-injections are advised to do it subcutaneous rather than intramuscular as it is less risky. As I understand it subQ is equally effective as IM, and could be even better as absorption is slower. But why give injections to an animal or a child when the nasal spray is available and effective? Xan Those of us who give self-injections are advised to do it subcutaneous rather than intramuscular as it is less risky. As I understand it subQ is equally effective as IM, and could be even better as absorption is slower.

But why give injections to an animal or a child when the nasal spray is available and effective?

Xan

]]> by: bILL http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-36073 Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:03:41 +0000 http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-36073 To rhonlee who posted on Oct 28th, 2008 at 9:08 am and any others that have fibromyalga or other autoimmune diseases. I recommend you look at Low Dose Naltrexone. At my compounding pharmacy here in california we are doing a fair amount with it, for various autoimmune diseases, with some very interesting successes. My wife has fibromyalga and it has given me my wife back, you know, the one with some energy, zest for life, not hurting all the time, can do things. By the way Grandpas Pharmacy in Placerville California and Prescription Specialists in Woodland California can both do the sterile injectable form. To rhonlee who posted on Oct 28th, 2008 at 9:08 am and any others that have fibromyalga or other autoimmune diseases. I recommend you look at Low Dose Naltrexone. At my compounding pharmacy here in california we are doing a fair amount with it, for various autoimmune diseases, with some very interesting successes. My wife has fibromyalga and it has given me my wife back, you know, the one with some energy, zest for life, not hurting all the time, can do things. By the way Grandpas Pharmacy in Placerville California and Prescription Specialists in Woodland California can both do the sterile injectable form.

]]> by: Tony B. http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-36067 Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:13:11 +0000 http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-36067 Yeah I thought that too but it kinda gets filtered away....so thats probably why he wants you to give such a high dosage cause its not getting to the muscle....but the body will only use what it needs anyway...so don't go any higher than what the vet says.....I think you are doing good don't worry. :) I've read alot on body building sites about this issue.... Yeah I thought that too but it kinda gets filtered away….so thats probably why he wants you to give such a high dosage cause its not getting to the muscle….but the body will only use what it needs anyway…so don’t go any higher than what the vet says…..I think you are doing good don’t worry. :)

I’ve read alot on body building sites about this issue….

]]> by: gail http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-36063 Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:52:40 +0000 http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-36063 The vet said under the skin or in the muscle. I chose under the skin because I don't like hurting my dog. Seems like if it is in the tissue it would be absorbed the same. The vet said under the skin or in the muscle. I chose under the skin because I don’t like hurting my dog. Seems like if it is in the tissue it would be absorbed the same.

]]> by: Tony B. http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-36044 Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:57:54 +0000 http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-36044 Good post Boo. So does your mom respond well to the injections or the sublingual better? Gail Where do you give your dog the shots? Hind quarter? In the muscle. I heard if you don't get into the muscle then 50% of the shot is wasted and will be just expelled by the body. Or do you pull the skin up in a V and do it that way? I'm still using the B complex injections....some shots work good and I can feel it kick in and some don't ...very strange... Good post Boo. So does your mom respond well to the injections or the sublingual better?

Gail
Where do you give your dog the shots? Hind quarter? In the muscle. I heard if you don’t get into the muscle then 50% of the shot is wasted and will be just expelled by the body. Or do you pull the skin up in a V and do it that way?

I’m still using the B complex injections….some shots work good and I can feel it kick in and some don’t …very strange…

]]> by: gail http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-36041 Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:14:17 +0000 http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-36041 I am about to re-order the injectable for my dog. I have since talked to her neuro Dr. and according to him I should give her 200-500 mcg every day. I do not want to inject her every day and this amount is enormously more than what her regular vet has prescribed; 5 mcg twice a week. Since it is so vastly different her vet has agreed to prescribing her methyl at 200 mcg/ml and give one cc twice weekly. If I see a difference in her symptoms then maybe go higher. She weighs 37 lbs. I am about to re-order the injectable for my dog. I have since talked to her neuro Dr. and according to him I should give her 200-500 mcg every day. I do not want to inject her every day and this amount is enormously more than what her regular vet has prescribed; 5 mcg twice a week. Since it is so vastly different her vet has agreed to prescribing her methyl at 200 mcg/ml and give one cc twice weekly. If I see a difference in her symptoms then maybe go higher. She weighs 37 lbs.

]]> by: Boo Radley http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-36039 Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:31:34 +0000 http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-36039 There is no known toxicity for methylcobalamin. Injected cyanocobalamin on the other hand can be dangerous in megadoses. I'm not sure why people go all weird when someone talks about injecting vitamins. I inject once a weak a b complex preparation. B12 deficiency is something that I'm positive is much more prevalent than doctors believe. Many breakthroughs in modern medicine have been made by laypeople who never even *looked* at a college. It is absolute arrogance to say that only 'trained medical professionals' are competent to make judgments about these things. I'm giving my Mom 1000mcg of methylcobalamin in injection form every other day. It's possible that it is good to slow or halt age-related neurological degeneration. But I've found Methyl-Mate, which you can order online. Liquid sublingual, that can also be used as a nasal spray. You have to request that they send you a nasal spray bottle with it, but they will free of charge. I found out that you can absorb up to 50% of the methylcobalamin taking it as a nasal spray, as opposed to perhaps 10-15% from taking it sublingually. And with the sublingual, you probably have to keep it under your tongue longer than the label says in order to absorb 10-15%. Anyways, methyl-mate can be ordered online. It's like 35 dollars a bottle (not including shipping), and most outlets will send you a complimentary nasal spray bottle with it if you ask them to. 5 drops is 1385 mcg of methylcobalamin. But If you spray, 1 spray is equal to 500 mcg. According to the label, there are 108 doses in the bottle of 1385 mcg. This is a product that is purchased by many parents of autistic children. There is no known toxicity for methylcobalamin. Injected cyanocobalamin on the other hand can be dangerous in megadoses. I’m not sure why people go all weird when someone talks about injecting vitamins. I inject once a weak a b complex preparation.

B12 deficiency is something that I’m positive is much more prevalent than doctors believe. Many breakthroughs in modern medicine have been made by laypeople who never even *looked* at a college. It is absolute arrogance to say that only ‘trained medical professionals’ are competent to make judgments about these things.

I’m giving my Mom 1000mcg of methylcobalamin in injection form every other day. It’s possible that it is good to slow or halt age-related neurological degeneration. But I’ve found Methyl-Mate, which you can order online. Liquid sublingual, that can also be used as a nasal spray. You have to request that they send you a nasal spray bottle with it, but they will free of charge. I found out that you can absorb up to 50% of the methylcobalamin taking it as a nasal spray, as opposed to perhaps 10-15% from taking it sublingually. And with the sublingual, you probably have to keep it under your tongue longer than the label says in order to absorb 10-15%.

Anyways, methyl-mate can be ordered online. It’s like 35 dollars a bottle (not including shipping), and most outlets will send you a complimentary nasal spray bottle with it if you ask them to. 5 drops is 1385 mcg of methylcobalamin. But If you spray, 1 spray is equal to 500 mcg. According to the label, there are 108 doses in the bottle of 1385 mcg. This is a product that is purchased by many parents of autistic children.

]]> by: Dan http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-35515 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:23:27 +0000 http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-35515 As far as amounts of methylcobalamin, i've been prescribed an injection solution containing 5 milligrams (5000 micrograms) per milliliter. Its made by an Australian company here in Perth Dan As far as amounts of methylcobalamin, i’ve been prescribed an injection solution containing 5 milligrams (5000 micrograms) per milliliter. Its made by an Australian company here in Perth

Dan

]]> by: brendan stallard http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-35463 Sun, 09 Nov 2008 02:21:42 +0000 http://www.tradersnarrative.com/confessions-of-a-methylcobalamin-junkie-669.html#comment-35463 Tony B, I used my large bottle of B12, the one from Calvet for two weeks injections now and I can't note any difference whatever between the two, apart from the human one being about 200 times the price. http://is.gd/5tvD brendan Tony B,

I used my large bottle of B12, the one from Calvet for two weeks injections now and I can’t note any difference whatever between the two, apart from the human one being about 200 times the price.

http://is.gd/5tvD

brendan

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