Firefox 3 Sucks
Published June 20th, 2008 in Internet Tags: beta, browser, firefox 3, google anlaytics, Mozilla, opera 9, support forum.There have been no updates for the past few days because I’ve been wrestling with my new browser and I’m extremely frustrated.
As “Papa Bear”, Bill O’Reilly might say if he were in my shoes, “F**king thing sucks! WE’LL DO IT LIVE!” 
I’m frustrated, not just because I’ve been a loyal Firefox fan and supporter for a long time but also because I bought into the hype and downloaded the new version to help Mozilla set a new world record.
I just can’t believe an organization that has put out such high quality software in the past can jump the shark this badly. How many months was this in beta again? how many release candidates did we go through?
Here are the problems I’m having:
- pages won’t load!
- when they do, CSS is randomly missing
- if they do render, pages are very slow (my cursor stutters rather than glides across the page)
- the “awsome bar” is about as useful and interesting as Jar Jar Binks
- too many add-ons are not compatible
I headed over to the support forums and this is the page Firefox 3 presented me with (I kid you not):
And here is what google analytics looks like for me (click to enlarge):
I tried erasing the cache, cookies, etc. then restarting Firefox but no matter what I do, that is what Google Analytics looks like. I’ve heard from others that they can’t see Google Maps and others that MySpace (one of the most popular sites on the web) doesn’t render correctly.
Anyone else out there have problems with Firefox 3 or is it just me?
Oh and in case you’re wondering, I’m typing this from Opera (9.50).
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Hey Babak,
I’m sorry to hear about yr frustration with Firefox 3. I’ve been through this with Firefox 2. Even at that version, the pages load frustratingly slow and the screen just froze intermittently when I tried to open a few windows tabs. It was said to be the memory leakage problem and apparently the problem is still not fixed. I dumped the browser and has not moved on to Safari (I use a MAC). When Firefox 3 was launched, I wanted to give it another try but after reading a review from some sites, I completely abandoned the idea.
I’m afraid I’ve not much to offer but I just hope you’ll resolve this soon as I’ve always enjoyed reading yr blogs. Cheers!
Strange.. Ive been using FF3 since Beta 3 and now on the final version 3 in both my Mac and XP and no problems at all. I suggest you back up your bookmarks, uninstall FF and reinstall it. If that doesn’t help then uninstall again delete all left over files in Program Files and Mozilla FF Application Data folder and re-install. Shouldn’t experience these problems that you’re describing.
I use the Nightly Tester Tools extension to force install all extensions that report that they are incompatible and it works well.
Lastly, FF3 is slightly less stable, I get a few crashes every now and then when I push it with too many tabs with all kinds of rich content, java etc. but other than that it’s noticeably faster.
Oh and one more thing, I hate the new address bar as well. I installed the oldbar extension to bring back the FF2 style bar.
Hi
I like the new look of fx3, cute. 
Hope the problems get resolved! 
I downloaded fx3 and I have the same problems as you do. I don’t think fx sucks but I’m getting frustrated!!! I shouldn’t have updated. I have vista [OK that’s another f*k up thing but has nothing to do with it]. When I try to open a link in a new tab, the tab is blank it doesn’t even have the address on the bar. Weird!!! I also get this script [which is blocked by adblock plus] on the upper left corner of the browser on every site I visit, what is it I have no idea. I’m not that experience to look at things like that. Been to Mozilla to find the solution, none to be had. I need to maybe use Opera until they fix it.
Bye
I’m running ff3 and I don’t have any of those issues that you are encountering, mozillazine,myspace, google all render fine.
As with any new release, your going to have incompatible addons. Same thing happened during the transition from 1 to 2. You can turn off compatibility checking for addons and 99% of your addons should work. thats what I do.
Also, if you want the old address bar back, d/l the oldbar addon. I don’t like the new awesomebar either.
Run “firefox -profilemanager”
and start a new profile. Major version upgrade always have their issues.
About the add-ons. Come on man, how is that Firefox’s fault? If you want to be on the bleeding edge, things like that happen. Wait about 2 weeks and all major addons should be updated. I was crying about Firebug 2 days ago, before they updated.
Sam, I’m a Mac guy (from waaay back) but lost my way and have gone to the dark side. I wonder if there is still time to repent?
Eyal, good to know that FF3 is working better on other systems. Can you try something? go here and tell me if it slows down. When I visit that page FF3 slows down so much that my cursor stutters across the screen. Not all pages are that slow but when I open several tabs (like 10+) things slow to a crawl. They never did that with FF2 nor with Opera 9.5
novice_girl, thanks well “FF3 sucks” is stronger language than I probably should have used but boy, I was and am frustrated.
dfi, thanks - why not make the “awesome bar” an option? like the larger back button?
Baz L, thanks for the tip, I’m going to try it and then if it doesn’t work go with Eyal’s suggestion and remove it all and do a clean reinstall. Thing is that there are more things to “back up” than simply bookmarks, like passwords and noscript options, etc.
re the add-ons, you’re right, that’s not Mozilla’s fault - I’m just frustrated because the move was slow and gradual but not only are there this many bugs, but the developers haven’t moved to update their plugins/add-ons. Just makes it that much more frustrating to not have your favourite custom feature.
No problem with that page. Like you I routinely use 10 tabs or more. Often opening them all at the sam time from a folder in the bookmarks toolbar.
Another thing to check is what extensions you do have installed. Maybe one of those is the culprit.
After downloading FF3, google docs would freeze up, couldn’t click on or load anything. Also had issues like not being able to open emails in gmail. I disabled NoScript and everything worked fine again. You may have a conflict going on between NoScript and FF3. I was having the problem even though I had permanently allowed all google scripts in NoScript
Hi,I have installed FF3 at home (XP) and work (Vista) and both work fine. I have added flashblock and no script and found loading better. I agree, addons seem to lag a few weeks so be patient their. It is like any other upgrade in any software. I now wait for few weeks for the last bugs to be fixed. I had a problem with an accounting package that is been around for years with a recent upgrade. Not sure what the issue is with the new awesome bar, if you could provide specifics for readers would be grateful, else it just more bad emotions… Lastly, as you should always know, back-up older versions if need to go back…so I say 1/3 of issue is your fault for not doing some basic computer prudent things….This just reminds us of what needs to be done.
I updated to FF3 and couldn’t be happier. A huge improvement in response time and memory hogging, especially when you have many tabs open at once. My guess is you have an add-on that may be incapable but I found anyone that wasn’t compatible didn’t load. Maybe you could disable some add-ons you suspect could be causing the trouble and see if that clears it until they are upgraded. Opening the browser in safe mode should prove whether an add on is the problem or its the browser.
I’d suggest you be patient as its the best browser out there by far and just got a whole lot better…IMO
I run FF3 on Tiger 10.4.11
Here are the things to check.
You are not loading CSS.
1. Go: View -> Page Style -> Basic Page Style to make sure style sheets are on
2. Make sure there is no special Encoding Go: View-> Encoding UTF 8
3. Go: View -> page source and copy and paste the style sheet in address bar, click back and revisit the page (it will be in cache).
4. Open FF in safe mode via: Start -> “firefox -safe-mode” or path to FF.
5. Check the error Console: Go: Tools -> Error Console — empty it, visit this site (tradersnarrative), and see all the CSS errors generated (laughs). It has to parse the CSS to generate errors.
If you reinstall and it still does not work, get the ad-on “Live HTTP Headers” to see all “gets”
Eyal, thanks for checking. I suspect there is something wrong with my install because if yours doesn’t stutter on that page. I have ample RAM btw and other browsers load the page much faster and the cursor moves smoothly over the screen. I suspect that something is wrong with my install because I’ve seen on other FF3 installs (that I did for a friend) that you can grab and image and a “ghost” image appears as you drag it - this is similar to a feature that opera has had for a long time. Similarly, re-ordering the tabs at the top don’t show the same “ghosting” image effect.
Nick, I had updated NoScript to the latest version which is supposed to work with FF3. NoScript is one of the most popular add-ons so if it can’t work with FF3….??!?!
Rudy, you could be right and I may have missed something but honestly I doubt it. I’m fairly proficient in “basic computing” and I don’t think I’ve missed anything. I’ve also tried trouble shooting it with multiple attempts.
George, I’m glad to hear that FF3 is providing others with a better user experience. Hopefully I can join this crowd sooner rather than later.
paul, thanks for the tips. I’ll give them a try and if all else fails go for a clean install. I’ve tried the suggestion from Baz L re running under a new profile but it didn’t make any diff.
Ok, here’s one final thing. I hope you haven’t already tried this, but here goes:
I remember that when I was trying to download FF3 for the first time, there were a lot of server issues. So, on the odd chance that your download was corrupted, you may want to try re-downloading and reinstalling.
Other than that, maybe there’s a problem with the MAC version? No clue.
I’m really sorry that you couldn’t get stuff to work man.
I uninstalled FF3 and reinstalled FF2.
I will wait for a while before uploading again, couldn’t get my delicious plug in to work properly.
I removed FF3 and ran CCleaner for good measure. Then I went to Mozilla’s site and downloaded a fresh file to make sure it was not corrupted as Baz suggested it may have been. I installed it and while GAnalytics was showing ok (css styling turned on) the whole browser was sluggish and again made the cursor stutter across the page on this page.
I uninstalled FF3 again, ran CCleaner and installed FF2.0.14 everything is back to normal. Now I’ll have to install all my add-ons and re-enter all my passwords. A pain in the ass but now I know definitely that there is something seriously wrong with FF3. I’m not sure what but I do know that it can’t be add-ons since I didn’t have any running and it was a fresh install.
To those who are running FF3 ok, enjoy your luck! Hopefully within a few months when Mozilla has ironed out the kinks I’ll join you.
What I can’t understand is why when I clicked and dragged on an image or the tabs, the “ghosting” image of the tab/image didn’t appear as the cursor “dragged it away”. I think this proves that something was wrong with the install, but what? I’m not sure.
For those who want to revert back to FF2, here is the official download page for it.
Maybe you should try to create a new Firefox profile. I have installed the 3 on my 4 macs (sorry, 4!!) and it just works like a charm…
You can also check if you don’t have something screwed in your config by typing “about:config” in the address bar a browsing the enormous list of configs. *bold* means changed by the user (not the factory setting or default setting anymore).
Pejvan,
thanks for the tip but I tried that. I created a new profile, started in “safe mode”, uninstalled all the add-ons, etc. I’m back with FF2 and happy again. Maybe by the end of the year Mozilla will have ironed out things with 3.1
How/where did you re download 2.0.14? i can’t find it anywhere! I am really unhappy with FF3.
Dude…
you need to completely get rid of Mozilla files in your windows and do a complete clean install….
It will be better if you can even clean the registery entries by going to run - type regedit - and then use Ctrl F to search for firefox and mozilla and delete every related thing.
You will find it will work beatifully after this.. cheers
Dude.
That’s so unfair. Your computer clearly has problems or something. Fx3 IS lightning fast…
I really liked everything (almost) about FF3.0, but the “awesome bar” was a deal breaker, and I’ve since uninstalled 3.0 and reinstalled 2.0.0.1.4 specifically because of how much I hate its behavior.
For the record, the config “fixes” everyone’s quoting are half-assed compromises at best (please don’t take that the wrong way… I’m not trying to say anything negative about anybody who might have made one of these suggestions.)
The fundamental problem with the “awesome bar” is its algorithm, not it aesthetic.
Other than that, for the two days I let allowed it to exist on my computer, it actually ran pretty quick sans a few pages like myspace for instance and it never crashed once.
“About the add-ons. Come on man, how is that Firefox’s fault?”
It’s 100% firefox’s fault. They decided not to make firefox 3 compatible with old addons and to say FUCK YOU to the developers that spent countless hours creating addons.
Firefox broke compatibility, how is it NOT firefox’s fault?
@ Irish Jim
Ahaha! That’s rich. You have no idea what you’re talking about and you’re making a fool out of yourself. No offense, really…
It’s THE EXTENSIONS’ fault that they are not compatible. EACH SINGLE EXTENSION has a line of code that says what versions of what browsers are compatible. Check them yourself and stupid talking shit. It will happen with EVERY SINGLE MOZILLA BROWSER, unless they change the way they check for compatibility, that is.
James, look up I put the link to version 2 in a previous comment.
v, I already did an uninstall and cleaned up with CCleaner. I’m not going to mess with my registry. Way too dangerous for little payoff. I’m with FF2 and I’m happy again.
Morbus, you may be right dude but I did everything in my power to make it work. Why do other browsers work brilliant on my system? why does FF3 not? why are other people having the same or similar issues?
cheshirepus, I’ve read that there is an add-on which will disable it and that you can also go into about:config to eliminate the “awesomeness”. If FF3 was running as it should I would probably keep it and get rid of the awesome bar via those options.
Irish Jim, I didn’t consider it that way. But then again, Mozilla went with a totally new rendering engine which may have necessitated the break.
@Irish Jim
I take it you’re not a coder. And I also take it that you haven’t taken a product from one major release to another. Sometimes things just change dude, that’s the whole point of upgrading versions. And 9 times out of 10 it is much harder (and usually dumber) to try to maintain backwards compatibility.
Also, right now there are only about 3 add-ons that I use that haven’t been made compatible. So let’s all grow up and stop bitching about add-ons that weren’t compatible within the first 24 hours, OK? Because everyone’s major gripe was about FireBug and now it is.
Now back to legitimate concerns:
@Babak
Something seems to be wrong, I’ll have to admit. I’m hoping that you’re now in agreement that the issue is, at least partially, environmental. With that said, here’s hoping that they find a solution for you. Or that you are happy with Opera.
This kinda reminds me of the Wordpress 2.5 upgrade (which I still can’t get to work right), but ask yourself this: How many people said these exact same things about FF2 when it just came out? And where are they now?
To conclude: Software gets updated, usually for the benefit of the majority. If you aren’t in that majority, then you need to build your own browser I guess.
With all the new “iffy” stuff that FF3 has to offer, I find that it is light years away from FF2 in terms of memory management and CPU utilization.
@Irish Jim
In every single extension there is a line of code (or multiple lines) that say what versions of what browsers are compatible with the extension. So it’s the extensions’ fault that THEY are incompatible, not the other way around.
Stop talking.
Any plans to post meaningful market commentary again in the near future?
I feel lost without your market input. When do you think you will be up again?
Hey Babak,
I don’t use Firefox myself, but I noticed this guy (http://www.youtube.com/user/jimmyrcom) is quite knowledgable with computers and is himself a fan of Firefox. Maybe you can fire him a few emails in regards to your issues.
Keep up the great commentary!!
FF 3 crashes on me every 3 minutes. It just closes and I loose all of the tabs I have opened. Of course, if I run it gain the tabs are still there, but as something made it crash, it just crashes again. Lame lame lame. Worst FF ever!!!! I’m starting to use Safari, but I really miss add ons
Thanks for all the emails and comments. Yes I will be back up and posting very soon
Hey Babak, sorry FF3 isn’t working out for you and sorry that this thread has taken on a life of its own, but I have one more point:
Morbus makes a good point: Every extension has a lil’ XML file in which you’ll find these lines:
1.5
2.0.0.*
So please, please, pretty please, stop blaming FF3 for extension compatibility, OK? Also, if you download the Mr. Tech Toolkit extension you can right click on an extension and “Make Compatible” (at your own risk of course).
“the “awsome bar” is about as useful and interesting as Jar Jar Binks”
And just as annoying.
You can also add a boolean line to the about:config “extensions.compatibilityCheck” and set it to false. It’s easier and won’t get you into so much trouble as adding a whole new extension…
No, its not the extensions. I have 2, both upgraded and downloaded from FF’s page. If they don’t control their stuss who will? I mean, I love (used to really) FF, but this is really bad, I am a ac user by the way
You aren’t the only one. I’m about to uninstall this browser make IE8 my main browser. My issues include:
1) flash video not working
2) the rss button in the address bar no longer takes me to google reader, forcing me to search in the page source for the url to the rss feed so i can manually add it myself
3) frequent crashes
mmmm well, there are a lot of alternatives instead of IE 8
For instance, I m using Opera now, and loving it. Sometimes I use Safari too, I switched to Mac because of Vista, so for me, FF3 is for Firefox what Vista was for Windows.
Why did you even upgrade to FF3 in the first place? FF2 is great, and if it ain’t broke…
Was FF1 broken?
As people here said, FF3 is faster and has better memory management plus other features.
Major s/w releases will always have issues, at least for some users, that take a while to iron out (regardless of betas and RCs).
hi i have a lot of trobles with FF3 the flash animations work like hell i can’t even wacth youtube many times and i use firefox since i know about what is the internet but i realy thing firefox 3 suks so ii passed to the laste verion of forefox 2 that i found on filehippo
Enough already. This used to be on my short list of “must check daily” websites, and now it has turned into a steaming pile of sh*t.
Changing browsers is a simple fu**ing thing, so get your sh*t together, or you will lose the traffic you built up over a long time by posting quality information.
Babak,
it is amazing that the FF3 post got so many comments compared to most of all your trading related stuff.
Anyway I think your are doing a good job.
Thanks!
Cheers,
Markus
Babak,
it is amazing that the FF3 post got so many comments compared to most of all your trading related stuff.
Anyway I think your are doing a good job.
Thanks!
Cheers,
Markus
Babak Are you posting your coment somewhere else?
Does anyone know if Babak is coming on line anytime soon?
the “awsome bar” is about as useful and interesting as Jar Jar Binks
Oh how I love that line. The awesome bar is ghey
FF3 sucks ass. I tried to put up with it but just couldn’t take it and ended up rolling back to FF2. It wasn’t one big thing, but just a combination of all the little annoying bugs that drove me insane.
Not only compatibility issues with extensions, but core functions of the browser got borked in FF3. Too bad, I like FF3’s GUI…but that’s the only thing I like about it. Anyway, FF2 rocks hard so I’m not exactly sad.
hey Babak,
nice to see another persian stock operator conquer the financial markets.
Check out my financial blog:
www.tapereader.de
Greets
I am a POWER USER (lol) and my upgrade to FF3 has been very pleasant.
I have had NO PROBLEMS on an install running many add ons. I did have one add on , a smooth scroller, that I thin kwas acting up, but the other 12 are fine. Roboform, noscript, adblocker, googlbar, etc.
Can;t say why some are having problems but a fresh install and a new profile SHOULD fix it . And the awesomebar is very nice, thank you.
USER ERORR
FF3 works great for me.
I found a TabMixPlus and enough other plugings that work with it so I’m happy enough. with that aspect.
Google “Firefox Fast Connection Fast Computer” and change some settings, you’ll probably see a noticeable speed improvement.
Hey Babak, you founded a nice FF3 user group.
By the way, anything market related you wanna share?
hey tapereader,
very good site, super writing style, even better than this one.
he called the top of the corn market and the crude oil market
interesting stocks to follow
greets
dan
hi,
the article”the bull market still lives” is pretty interesting
good call tapereader.de
yours
japan
this tapereader guy reminds me of young contrarian jesse livermore, his calls ain t bad
Hi! Babak, are you alright? on a long vacation? Miss you very much and hope you’ll be back soon.
i had intermittent slowness, dns and performance problems with FF2 on both mac and win, but nothing comparing to my experience on both platforms with FF3. even after turning off extensions, weird slowness makes the product unusable both in tiger and xp. i am a diehard FF supporter who stuck with it despite endless problems but this is a serious nightmare. i haven’t done it yet, but i may have NO CHOICE but use IE and Safari for my basic browsing. man, i am so, so disappointed. MOZILLA LISTEN UP. WE LOVE YOU BUT WE CAN’T LIVE ON MOLDY BREAD AND BITTER WATER!
Oh man, I thought I was the only one.
My FF keeps doing the same also. I’ve tried safe mode, creating a new profile but nada….
On Vista.
Why oh why
.
What I don’t understand or want to know is why are you using FireFox anyway
Because Firefox > Everything else?
I love the tools within FireFox but the damn thing keeps crashing after reloading 4-5 times - Waaaaaaaaaaaaa. Move over Steve Ballmer - I’m gonna be using Safari soon!
HH
WHY USE FIREFOX.
OPERA IS THE BEST
Babak ci sei ancora, o no ?
Where are you gone ?
Babak, congratulations! This post seems to be your most successful one in terms of comments. Maybe you are right in retiring from this blog. This post will take care of everything itself just fine - not need for new posts
)
I have found an unacceptable amount of css issues on almost every site I visit. I can’t say I am particularly impressed. Back to safari.
I use a Mac and have noticed a trend in Mozilla dropping the Mac ball. I switched to FF3 from Camino because Camino refused to save any of my user preferences, ever. FF3 constantly breaks on me, refusing to load any web 2.0 content if it’s been launched for more than an hour or so. Usually relaunching the program corrects this, but what the hell? I love Firefox when it functions, but when it doesn’t it’s the most annoying program. It’s bad enough that 99% of apps run on Macs like they were Internet JAVA applets anyway, but this only makes it worse. It’s funny when YouTube loads like it a website from 1993 (all centered and in a long column with no embedded content) and tells me I need to update Flashplayer and then the Flash website loads the exact same way. Relaunching fixes it, usually, after the first try. Sometimes I have to relaunch twice because the first time I have to force quit the browser which negates the positive effects of relaunching it.
It seems the trend in 21st century computing can be described as “the beginning of the end” as quality gets worse and worse, sliding rapidly towards utterly unusable technology.
Good to see Mozilla at the forefront of this movement.
I use a Mac and have noticed a trend in Mozilla dropping the Mac ball. I switched to FF3 from Camino because Camino refused to save any of my user preferences, ever. FF3 constantly breaks on me, refusing to load any web 2.0 content if it’s been launched for more than an hour or so. Usually relaunching the program corrects this, but what the hell? I love Firefox when it functions, but when it doesn’t it’s the most annoying program. It’s bad enough that 99% of apps run on Macs like they were Internet JAVA applets anyway, but this only makes it worse. It’s funny when YouTube loads like it a website from 1993 (all centered and in a long column with no embedded content) and tells me I need to update Flashplayer and then the Flash website loads the exact same way. Relaunching fixes it, usually, after the first try. Sometimes I have to relaunch twice because the first time I have to force quit the browser which negates the positive effects of relaunching it.
It seems the trend in 21st century computing can be described as “the beginning of the end” as quality gets worse and worse, sliding rapidly towards utterly unusable technology.
Good to see Mozilla at the forefront of this movement. In fact, it’s so poor a program, this form isn’t even working correctly. I’m fighting it just to post this.
This isn’t confusing as to how or why, but I use IE.
Have been for years, whether it’s compliant or not i really don’t care. If i can see the page then the job is done. Here’s what interesting, as long as you ‘use windows’, you will be using IE to get FF
or IE to get any browser unless your completely masochistic and are doing it all from the cli.
All the other issues about security, plugins, etc..etc.. it’s all relative. Eventually all browsers will have similar functions.
Opera does rock especially the new one. Maxthon hybrid, is just as good as anything i’ve seen Opera, FireFox, etc..
Safari? Why is that even mentioned?
Where are’t thou?
Hope all is okay???
DJF
Hey Babak,
I’m getting worried, please just write a word to let us all know you are ok.
Hello Babak,
I like to read your resent discovery and view point. Thank you for your time and sharing.
Well, FFX3 has frustrated me to the point that I’m no longer going to use it.
It’s the worse update in history as far as I’m concerned and I’m not fuffing around with trying to get browsers to work or video flash players installed any longer.
FFX really have done themselves, and us, a great disservice!
the fact that I googled firefox sucks says it all.
Firefox 3 does really suck and the fact that they will not let you use older versions any more is the worse move I have seen them do. It locked up on me so many times and then just crash. I also turned there backs on the open source quality standards as well. I am waiting for a better browser to come out and sqash them. I am going to Opera.
I’ve also used Firefox for a long time, since the days of Phoenix, and will not be updating from FF2 until they …
1. give users the option of completely disabling the awesome bar, I don’t mean superficially changing the way it looks (Oldbar) or by config hacks, I mean by a one click option to disable the awesome bar and all of it’s cacheing activites.
2. give users an option to use the FF2 style bookmarks system, apart from various bugs, the FF3 bookmarks system is utterly confusing, no resizable bookmarks window, no floating bookmarks window, and I can’t sort bookmarks by name when right-clicking in the bookmarks sidebar.
3. fix the crashes, I’ve had more crashes using FF3 for just one month than I’ve had using FF2 for one year … too many to list here!
The compatibility issues for add-ons simply based on the line of code defining what version of Firefox it works with should be fixed by using MR Tech Toolkit (formerly Local Install). That said, I dislike FF3 for a large variety of reasons, including the fact that even using Tech Toolkit doesn’t get some add-ons to work. I even saved .xpi, changed to .zip, edited the line of code in question, and some of the add-ons that SHOULD work if that were the issue still don’t (like Form History Manager stopped working when FF2 came out). I understand that some of this is coming from closing security loopholes (Form History Manager was a good example of that, I think, even though I did really like using it…I still miss it), but some of it I think came from changing code for things that didn’t need to be changed. And what happened to the simple appearance of FF? I like the way FF has looked. And suddenly, it looks like JP from Grandma’s Boy has run amok trying to make the browser look slicker or edgier. I don’t want that, okay? Jeez. If you want to get metal legs, that’s fine, but leave the familiar appearance of my browser (which I might add, makes me feel warm and fuzzy) the hell alone.
FF2 ftw, FF3 ftl. I feel about FF3 right now the way I feel about Vista. Even if it works properly (which is questionable), I still don’t like it. You wanna give me an awesome bar? How about an awesome crowbar to crack across the heads of the people who made FF3 this way? At least THAT would make me feel a little better!
Agree 100%! FIREFOX 3 SUCKS. So frustrated with it I have been searching for a way to go back to 2 but can’t find a download. I would delete the %$#% thing and go back if I could find it.
You can download Firefox 2 from here, it is still supported with the latest security updates the latest version is Firefox v2.0.0.16 …
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-older.html
i agree i hate firefox 3. i went back to using version 2 or IE7. to me IE7 is even beter than ff3
Is Babak dead??? Where did he go?