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		<title>by: registered investment advisor</title>
		<link>http://www.tradersnarrative.com/record-stock-market-volatility-signals-bottom-303.html#comment-33479</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>There are many market signals out there and new ones are being developed. Recently, I read a journal paper that says consumer confidence can signal market turns. The overall principle should be: buy in fear and sell into euphoria. It is however very hard to carry out. That why the few who could (like Warren Buffet) are rewarded handsomely by the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many market signals out there and new ones are being developed. Recently, I read a journal paper that says consumer confidence can signal market turns. The overall principle should be: buy in fear and sell into euphoria. It is however very hard to carry out. That why the few who could (like Warren Buffet) are rewarded handsomely by the market.
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		<title>by: horeshoe</title>
		<link>http://www.tradersnarrative.com/record-stock-market-volatility-signals-bottom-303.html#comment-32189</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>horseshoe likes 11890 then 13190 Aug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>horseshoe likes 11890 then 13190 Aug.
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		<title>by: Financial News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Market Recovery Continues, but Few Believe in It</title>
		<link>http://www.tradersnarrative.com/record-stock-market-volatility-signals-bottom-303.html#comment-30367</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] I’ve been yammering on about market bottoms, bullish indicators and contrarian sentiment and other similar ideas for some time. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I’ve been yammering on about market bottoms, bullish indicators and contrarian sentiment and other similar ideas for some time. [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Market Recovery Continues But Few Believe In It</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] I&amp;#8217;ve been yammering on about market bottoms, bullish indicators and contrarian sentiment and other similar ideas for some time. The only thing I haven&amp;#8217;t done is reach through the monitor and slap you around till you get some long exposure [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I&#8217;ve been yammering on about market bottoms, bullish indicators and contrarian sentiment and other similar ideas for some time. The only thing I haven&#8217;t done is reach through the monitor and slap you around till you get some long exposure [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Trading Diary Entry #11 - The January Barometer &#171; KeithShepard.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Record Stock Market Volatility Signals Bottom (Trader’s Narrative) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Record Stock Market Volatility Signals Bottom (Trader’s Narrative) [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: wes</title>
		<link>http://www.tradersnarrative.com/record-stock-market-volatility-signals-bottom-303.html#comment-29525</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The smart money index was developed in 1987 by a Lynn Elgert and was published in a Barrons article following the 1987 crash.

I don't know it's exact construction, but it's based on the early morning trades being the emotional and news driven trades (dumb money) while the late afternoon trades are the more reasoned trades (smart money). It is constructed by subtracting the early morning volume (first 30 minutes using Dow volume) from the late volume (last one hour using Dow volume).

I don't know if any correction is made for the time periods being different, etc. In short, I've told you more than I really know, but I try not to let that constrain me.

I have read that the SMI has hit a lot of home runs, calling the 87 and 98 declines. I have also read that it has a lead time of 75-85 days, so it may not be able to be used to find a market bottom.

I am exposed to SMI through a subscription service, so I can't provide a link. I can tell you that the SMI has been in an almost straight line decline going well back into 2006, until the past two weeks, when it has started to climb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The smart money index was developed in 1987 by a Lynn Elgert and was published in a Barrons article following the 1987 crash.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know it&#8217;s exact construction, but it&#8217;s based on the early morning trades being the emotional and news driven trades (dumb money) while the late afternoon trades are the more reasoned trades (smart money). It is constructed by subtracting the early morning volume (first 30 minutes using Dow volume) from the late volume (last one hour using Dow volume).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if any correction is made for the time periods being different, etc. In short, I&#8217;ve told you more than I really know, but I try not to let that constrain me.</p>
<p>I have read that the SMI has hit a lot of home runs, calling the 87 and 98 declines. I have also read that it has a lead time of 75-85 days, so it may not be able to be used to find a market bottom.</p>
<p>I am exposed to SMI through a subscription service, so I can&#8217;t provide a link. I can tell you that the SMI has been in an almost straight line decline going well back into 2006, until the past two weeks, when it has started to climb.
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		<title>by: wes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Babak, I know all the indicators will never line up in synch. My point was that, if the market undercuts recent lows, all of the indicators that have given buy signals will have been shown to be WRONG, or at best, early (which in most cases is just another way to say wrong).

Conversely, those indicators that so far haven't given a buy signal will have been shown to be correct. So why not look just at those so far correct few for the REAL buy signal, ignoring all of the wrong indicators?

The Rydex ratio, which is a measure of sentiment, has consistently shown a greater bullish bias than at the August low, an even greater bullish bias than at the March low, and a much greater bullish bias than at the 2006 lows. Now this sentiment as reflected by Rydex, is not simply what one thinks of the market as expressed by a bull/bear opinion, but it is how a large population of retail investors (supposedly dumb money) are actually invested.

Similarly, the investors intelligence numbers and the OEX option players (smart money) are out of whack for calling a low. The smart money index has shown consistent selling by the smart players until just recently, and remains well below previous readings at market lows. (more on this below).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Babak, I know all the indicators will never line up in synch. My point was that, if the market undercuts recent lows, all of the indicators that have given buy signals will have been shown to be WRONG, or at best, early (which in most cases is just another way to say wrong).</p>
<p>Conversely, those indicators that so far haven&#8217;t given a buy signal will have been shown to be correct. So why not look just at those so far correct few for the REAL buy signal, ignoring all of the wrong indicators?</p>
<p>The Rydex ratio, which is a measure of sentiment, has consistently shown a greater bullish bias than at the August low, an even greater bullish bias than at the March low, and a much greater bullish bias than at the 2006 lows. Now this sentiment as reflected by Rydex, is not simply what one thinks of the market as expressed by a bull/bear opinion, but it is how a large population of retail investors (supposedly dumb money) are actually invested.</p>
<p>Similarly, the investors intelligence numbers and the OEX option players (smart money) are out of whack for calling a low. The smart money index has shown consistent selling by the smart players until just recently, and remains well below previous readings at market lows. (more on this below).
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		<title>by: Babak</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 05:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>wes, afaik the Rydex data and OEX options have reached critical. We'll never have all the indicators line up in synch - what matters is the overall picture.

btw, what's the smart money index?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wes, afaik the Rydex data and OEX options have reached critical. We&#8217;ll never have all the indicators line up in synch - what matters is the overall picture.</p>
<p>btw, what&#8217;s the smart money index?
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		<title>by: wes</title>
		<link>http://www.tradersnarrative.com/record-stock-market-volatility-signals-bottom-303.html#comment-29410</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Only a very few widely followed indicators HAVE NOT signaled a bottom. If the market undercuts recent lows, I suggest we concentrate on those few indicators that have, at least so far, gotten it right.

Among the few indicators that have not signaled a bottom are the Rydex ratio, Investors Intelligence, the smart money index and the OEX put/call ratio. Babak, perhaps you know of some others and could list them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a very few widely followed indicators HAVE NOT signaled a bottom. If the market undercuts recent lows, I suggest we concentrate on those few indicators that have, at least so far, gotten it right.</p>
<p>Among the few indicators that have not signaled a bottom are the Rydex ratio, Investors Intelligence, the smart money index and the OEX put/call ratio. Babak, perhaps you know of some others and could list them.
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		<title>by: Record Stock Market Volatility &#171; Phil&#8217;s Back-Up Website</title>
		<link>http://www.tradersnarrative.com/record-stock-market-volatility-signals-bottom-303.html#comment-29390</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Record Stock Market&amp;#160;Volatility  Another article on volatility, by Babak at Trader&amp;#8217;s Narrative. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Record Stock Market&nbsp;Volatility  Another article on volatility, by Babak at Trader&#8217;s Narrative. [&#8230;]
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